Gary Nolan interview on Dreamland by Whitley Strieiber

G: I think one of thing (that’s) interesting here is, imagine their timeline. Maybe their timeline is not just us, but they can contemplate us going away and the next coming along. Or maybe they’ve got multiple programs going on on thousands of planets.

W: Millions or billions, I mean, it could be endless. The universe being so huge.

G: From an evolutionary standpoint, why do we have most of the problems we have today? I think, primarily, because of the early tribalistic fights that…The tribes that won were the ones that could fight against one other tribe, and so the genes that got passed were the aggressive genes. So maybe there needs to be a few cataclysmic cycles to eventually select for genes…and mentalities that are more interactive and less disposed to…blowing each other up. Maybe the expectation, by whatever this is, is that we do end ourselves, but they’ll just work on the remainder and raise them up.